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Baker Refuses to Accept EBT Cards at Braintree Farmers Market

Pie vendor refuses to accept EBT cards at farmers market. What do you think?

“I don’t think American taxpayers should be footing the bill for people’s pie purchases,” Andrea Taber, proprietor of the Ever So Humble Pie Co. in Walpole, told bostonherald.com.

Taber sells her pies at the , yet refuses to accept tokens that  the Farmers Market organizers sell to Electronic Benfits Transfer or EBT cardholders to use at the market.

Farmers Market chairwoman Donna Ingemanson said that people on food stamps needed healthy choices and asked the Boston Herald, "What better chance to buy healthy foods than at a farmers market?"

Should food vendors be able to decide who they sell their products to? Do you think that farmers markets should sell tokens to EBT cardholders?  Let us know what you think in the comments section.


Patrick Mulvey-Welsh August 17, 2012 at 05:30 PM
To Tyler Seguin. There are many Democrats in that 1%. But most Democrats in that 1% generally understand their obligation to betterment and over all health of our shared society by contributing a little more when they can afford to do so. It doesn't help even the 1% when the remaining 99% are in the situation that to many Americans are in right now. The rich and the hopeful rich never do it on their own. Unless you inherited your wealth you've have taken advantage of some aspect of what our government and shared sacrifices of all inhabitants of the USA have given to amass your fortune. You of anyone should understand that since I'm sure you spent many of your formative years taking advantage of ice time on a taxpayer paid for rink. Which if you hadn't you most likely not would be playing in the NHL and would not be a wealthy man.
anita August 17, 2012 at 06:36 PM
this baker should not be allowed to be a vendor at a Farmers' Market. It is nobody's business which foods a person on food stamps buys. What, if you are poor you cannot eat pie? I saw one comment which put buying pie in with true luxury foods like lobster; really?? maybe folks on foodstamps should be forced to put an additive in the food so it is not enjoyable, would that be enuf punishment for participating in the DTA program? I organized the first Farmers' Market in Somerville, 1979. We had to set up in an area reachable by low income families because bringing fresh nutritious food to impoverished city folks was one of the main purposes of the Farmers' Market movement.
Chris Farley August 17, 2012 at 06:56 PM
First off wow. For veryone screaming "This Baker shouldnt be allowed to do business in braintree!" Get a FREAKIN Grip. This is a capitalistic country, she can choose to do business with EBT cards or not. Should a business that doesnt accept debit or credit be vilified to?. Simply do not do business with them. Its that easy. Second of all, learn some basic nutritional facts. ANY sort of pie is not a healthy food. There was little to no nutritional value in ANY pie, even if it is gluten free. Im assuming those of you who say that they're healthy are the same ones that order 2 Big Macs and a "Diet" coke because you're "watching" your calories. Honestly, get a friggin grip, you over sensitive un, evolved primates. You sicken me.
Patrice DeMichele August 17, 2012 at 07:19 PM
@Anita you are right! That is the whole purpose of the farmer's market to bring the farm to the city, so everyone can enjoy it. I can not understand why in the world it would be anyone's business if a person using EBT wanted to buy a stupid frozen pie! Since when is it a luxury to purchase a freaking pie, and who the hell do you think you are to dictate what someone buys with food stamps? This turned in to a conversation about EBT fraud and using government money to purchase cigarettes and the likes! The point is lost here. The whole point is some one was denied food because they are poor lets not forget it, it was not ms. Tabors business to say what she said, she has the right to say I do not accept EBT cards only cash that's her choice. She didn't have to tell that person she couldn't purchase because she was on welfare there's a difference! She discriminated against someone based on their income and for that she is wrong.
Patrice DeMichele August 17, 2012 at 07:24 PM
She has a right to say we do not accept EBT she didn't have to be mean about it! You must be related to the baker since you are so enraged! You get a grip, no one is saying she has to accept EBT payments! Thats what's wrong with society, selfishness, and greed has replaced compassion and generosity.
FISCAL CONSERVATIVE August 17, 2012 at 08:34 PM
PATRICE MICHELE - FOOD STAMPS ARE PAID FOR BY PUBLIC DOLLARS. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT WHAT SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BE PURCHASED. FIRST AMENDMENT. WHAT A LIBERAL LIKE YOU THINKS. - IF YOU DON'T AGREE TO SPEND ALL TAXES ON SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND AGREE WITH YOUR BELIEFS WE MUST BE A BIGGOT, RACIST, ELITIST. YOU ARE SO BOARING. SAME LIBERAL WASTE. ARE YOU A CITIZEN???
FISCAL CONSERVATIVE August 17, 2012 at 08:37 PM
AND WHAT FARM DO YOU GROW WHOPPIE PIES ON? BRINGING THE FARM TO THE CITY MEANS FRESH VEGGIES AND GARDEN FRESH PRODUCE.
Margaret Carroll-Bergman (Editor) August 18, 2012 at 02:40 AM
Comments that use abusive language will be deleted. Please keep the discussion civil.
M.C.Rudman August 18, 2012 at 03:55 AM
I think so many are missing the point...Ms. Taber is saying that her pies have a lot of sugar, fats and other ingredietns that are not necessarily healthy for people. Do you know too that potatoe chips and soda are classified as foods in the Food Stamp Program??? First Lady Michelle Obama is trying to get students and the general population to eat healthy. Maybe the Food Stamp Program should be revised to read "buy potatoes, juice, milk" not chips and soda, which by the way are usually classified as junk food and empty calories. I thought the Farmer's Markets were for produce, for healthy living. M.C. Rudman
Paul Reed August 18, 2012 at 04:22 AM
I think Ms. Taber needs to mind her own business and then go out of business. If you live in that area ....Boycott her place.
Maria Hrabowski August 18, 2012 at 04:49 AM
Andrea Tabor does what NAzis did during the WWII in Poland. They decided what members of lower races could eat and in what amount. The Poles or Jews didn't deserve real coffee or tea. They could drink chicory substitute or tea made from apple peel. Those pies are not humble, they are hard to swallow pieces of arrogance, disregard for others, and superiority complex. By trying to control others simple needs, Andrea as well as the Fiscal Conservative below belittle others and dehumanize themselves.
FISCAL CONSERVATIVE August 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM
WWII - Nazi - ??!!! Give me a break. I told you. If we dont agree with you we must be a horrible person or a bigot or racist!! We are talking about abuse of a good program. I am all for giving assistance to people in need. Being on government assistance does not give you cart blanch to take that money and do what you want with it. The WIC program is one that is a great program. It allows for health foods to be purchased. Milk, eggs, juice, cereal. But i'm sorry if you feel that this is too restrictive. I for one would like to hear the justification on why we feel that EBT cards can be used to get a tattoo, used at nail salons, liquor stores, buy lottery tickets and shops that are what I consider expensive. I get my underwear at target or walmart and not victoria secrets at 15 dollars a pair. When you see the politicians on TV defending these purchases - they just bought one more vote on the backs of the hard working people of the commonwealth. One local pol said "well, what if a woman was going for a job interview - she wants her nails to look good" I say go down to CVS, buy the 5 dollar bottle of polish and paint your nails. But I guess I must be a NAZI because that would be such a hardship on someone to do. To require EBT users to make smart purchases and educate them on being fiscally conservative with our tax dollars is a step in the right direction for everyone. But I must be a NAZI. Please educate me on why there are these ridiculous allowances.
Maria Hrabowski August 18, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Unfortunately, this is the first comparison which came to mind. I am convinced that the danger of installing totalitarian system through steps, that seems miniscule and almost innocents, is very much underestimated. Expressed on other sites by many bloggers (Herald, Walpole Patch) strong conviction that they have a right to control small life decisions of other people because they are on welfare is for me one of the most dangerous signs of our times. This belief that as long as someone is down on his luck and gets paid from taxpayers money, then every taxpayer has a right to decide if that person can or cannot eat lobsters or buy a child a cookie cookie, or drink coke, or paint his/her nails is really a step toward installing a totalitarian control over another human being. It is a small step but in a very dangerous direction.
Joseph Bitonti II August 18, 2012 at 05:33 PM
I agree as a father of six who has worked hard and still has to receive food stamp benifits I think it is appaling. I have a good job and work hard but thats not enough anymore and then to have someone dictate what I feed my children makes me sick. To top it all off even with the food stamps its still hard to ensure that we have food. Do those people know what it feels like to tell yor children they cant eat somthing because we have to have it for dinner tommorow, because were trying to ensure that we have somthing to eat everyday til payday. I worked two jobs for three years to stay off food stamps but never saw my family so you know what I live with the embarrasment for the few minutes at the store to be able to see my children. People need to realize there are honest hard working americans getting assistance out their and who are they to judge. The farmers market will be the biggest loser as people should boycot it and take their EBT cards elsewhere.
Joseph Bitonti II August 18, 2012 at 05:44 PM
I agree that there are people who abuse the program but is a pie really a problem as my children somtimes deserve a pie or some ice cream after dinner. If I lived closer I would take all my children down there and have that laady tell them she wont give us a pie see how she feels after seing there little faces. We have homecooked meals everyday and rarely eat out and if I want to give my children some pie or ice cream no one has the right to tell me I cant. I bet she also thinks its okay for millionaires to receive unemployment, check that out it was top a story in the news this morning. Maybe they just need to sell some stuff. I have sold many things over the years to feed my children and will inevitebly have to again.
Joseph Bitonti II August 18, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Your right she does have the right to not accept it but if she does accept EBT she has to follow the rules set by the state and if it falls into an acceptable catagory of items that are allowed by the state then she has to accept them. It may not be a necessity but thats not her call to make.
Joseph Bitonti II August 18, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Thank you Barbara Mulvey you took the words right out of my mouth.
overworked August 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Yes, I agree. A whoopie pie isn't part of a nutritionaly balanced diet. She isn't "discriminating", just not accepting a certain type of payment! Pay cash if you want to buy a pie. For the record, I work, have never been on welfare or assistance, and I couldn't afford to buy a pie because I don't have enough money in my budget after I pay my taxes! So why should tax money be taken from me to give to someone else for a luxury that I can't afford?
overworked August 18, 2012 at 11:31 PM
The corporate welfare issue is a problem also. Two wrongs don't make right.
overworked August 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Suggestion, if it is a treat that is so desired and deserved, use the card to buy fresh fruit and bake your own pie.
susanbellnc August 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM
If it is the policy of the Farmer's Market to accept EBT cards, all vendors should have to abide by that policy. I also have no problem with someone who is on the SNAP program once in a while getting something like a pie or cake to treat their family. This woman must not have ever been through that type of situation herself, needing help to feed her loved ones.
Kelly August 19, 2012 at 05:12 PM
I am not familiar with what foods are in compliance with the EBT payment system. However, I do know that every business in the Commonwealth is allowed to pick what form of payment they will except and what their return policy is. If the Baker only excepts CASH --then that is her business policy. She is not discriminating if that is truly HER BUSINESS POLICY. If you don't have cash FOR WHATEVER REASON GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. And by the way, I am a PROUD "LIBERAL"!!!! WHO IS SICK OF THE LABELING, NAME CALLING AND LUMPING PEOPLE TOGETHER!!!
Patrick August 20, 2012 at 02:56 PM
I'm not a big fan of my tax dollars being spent on things like tanks and hand grenades. While I agree that a certain number of them are neccessary, I think the vast majority are not and that is just one of several hundred places our government wastes our tax dollars. Also, I'm sure the governement spends way more on tanks and bridges to nowhere (yes, I know that was called off but ONLY because people found out about it) then it does on pie. Regardless, I wouldn't deny you, a tank builder, a congressman or even the mean pie lady pie. Denying people pie is just mean.
Patrick August 20, 2012 at 03:20 PM
I think the most important thing that people are overlooking here is that pie is awesome. Jesus would have given the people two pies instead of nasty fish and bread except that it would have screwed up the space/time continuum and thrown humanity into chaos. If this conversation is going to be about who has the right to pie and who gets to decide what we do with our tax dollars, I nominate myself as arbitrator and here is my solution: Pie for Everyone! Once a week, a government truck brings you a pie regardless of income or social status. If you have an address, you get a pie. If you don't have an address, you go to your local pie distribution center and you get a pie. This program is easy to pay for. The infrastructure for delivery and distribution is already there and available as the post office has very little to do these days and the cost of the pies can be offset by selling off a few fighter jets that are just sitting around in favor of drones anyway. Now that everyone get's pie, it doesn't matter if you can buy them with EBT or not. There, problem solved. You are welcome.
Patrick August 20, 2012 at 03:23 PM
She doesn't know. In fact, my wife was going to pick up a pie last weekend but forgot to stop for cash so she had to buy tokens, so no pie. No pie is sad.
Casey Meserve August 20, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Yeah! I agree with Patrick!
Mel Cross August 20, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Patrick, Falmouth rink did not use taxpayer dollars.........To create a state of the art facility. It was completely private funded.......... did those 1% democrats pay the optional Higher tax? Did Lizzy pay the Option? She does make 350K for one class. Do as I say not as I do democrats............
Sam December 21, 2012 at 08:20 PM
@ Joseph, maybe you should of made sure you could provide for your children before having 6. I only have 1 child, and would rather keep my family small than having more kids than I can handle and then have to depend on the govt and other ppl's tax money to support MY family. doesn't seem fair!
dawn miko May 07, 2013 at 01:38 AM
As a farmer, I totally understand choosing not to take food stamps. Every year I received a notice from Sacramento, 8 hours away, telling me I had to attend at my expense, a mandatory education meeting in re how to accept food stamps. Just too much work, and another layer of paper work in an already 12 hour day doing markets. I don't work markets anymore, and it might be workable for me to accept EBT now because I'm not working miserable, 80 hour workweeks, but it wasn't back then. I couldn't have done one more thing. There were days when I didn't bother to tie my shoes, I was just so dog tired. Farming is tough! The venom directed at that poor baker astounds me. The last time I checked it's a free country. There are gas stations that don't accept anything but cash, but no one calls them ugly names. No one sees them discriminating against credit cards or EBT payments there. No, but the farmer, she's a piece of dung. Really?
Tom Garrett June 13, 2013 at 06:06 PM
Nobody has a right to pie. This baker refused to sell to someone using other people's money. True compassion can only come from voluntary charity. For the government to seize some people's income, and give it to others is immoral

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